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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19983</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;alternative to typing http://&quot;

Simple browser innovation...

Remove the HTTP, and have it be a drop down (which the ability to add customized options).  This simple change would eliminate the need to type http://.  Now if you clicked on a link it would automatically change to reflect where you were. (ie: HTTPS://).  But if you wanted to go to FTP. You could select &quot;FTP&quot; from the drop down and then type 360conferences.com


&quot;www&quot;

Yes, why we picked three of the longest letters to pronounce in any fashion. And how to ever change it.

I&#039;d like to see a proposal for the simple alternative...

web.yahoo.com

And to somehow make it an infrastructure level change so that web. &amp; www. would be synonymous.   And even allow &quot;yahoo.com&quot; to simply be &quot;silent web&quot;.  Where as all other subdomains would require typing mail.yahoo.com, movies.yahoo.com, etc.

But this has to be done seamless to the common user.  But likewise. I think this could be incorporated in a browser design.

In fact, I did a little back end site for my mother-in-law and she was having problems. It wasn&#039;t maintaining her &quot;session&quot;. I finally realized she wasn&#039;t entering the domain in the URL bar but in the search and without the www. prefix. Well, the host server wasn&#039;t setup to equate  domain.com the same as www.domain.com.  

&quot;“Call mom” into the phone and it would automatically connect you with your mom and they would’ve said, “You’re crazy.”&quot;

My father used to caution on the danger of this (ie: when lack of phone exists), or of the guy standing at the pay phone saying &quot;Call mom!&quot; and nothing happens.  Of course, one is now hard pressed to find a pay phone anymore. (What an interesting twist the future delivered.) *lol*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;alternative to typing http://&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple browser innovation&#8230;</p>
<p>Remove the HTTP, and have it be a drop down (which the ability to add customized options).  This simple change would eliminate the need to type http://.  Now if you clicked on a link it would automatically change to reflect where you were. (ie: HTTPS://).  But if you wanted to go to FTP. You could select &#8220;FTP&#8221; from the drop down and then type 360conferences.com</p>
<p>&#8220;www&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, why we picked three of the longest letters to pronounce in any fashion. And how to ever change it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a proposal for the simple alternative&#8230;</p>
<p>web.yahoo.com</p>
<p>And to somehow make it an infrastructure level change so that web. &amp; www. would be synonymous.   And even allow &#8220;yahoo.com&#8221; to simply be &#8220;silent web&#8221;.  Where as all other subdomains would require typing mail.yahoo.com, movies.yahoo.com, etc.</p>
<p>But this has to be done seamless to the common user.  But likewise. I think this could be incorporated in a browser design.</p>
<p>In fact, I did a little back end site for my mother-in-law and she was having problems. It wasn&#8217;t maintaining her &#8220;session&#8221;. I finally realized she wasn&#8217;t entering the domain in the URL bar but in the search and without the www. prefix. Well, the host server wasn&#8217;t setup to equate  domain.com the same as <a href="http://www.domain.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.domain.com</a>.  </p>
<p>&#8220;“Call mom” into the phone and it would automatically connect you with your mom and they would’ve said, “You’re crazy.”&#8221;</p>
<p>My father used to caution on the danger of this (ie: when lack of phone exists), or of the guy standing at the pay phone saying &#8220;Call mom!&#8221; and nothing happens.  Of course, one is now hard pressed to find a pay phone anymore. (What an interesting twist the future delivered.) *lol*</p>
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		<title>By: john W</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19953</link>
		<dc:creator>john W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever hear a paradigm shift without a clutch. t&#039;ain&#039;t pretty :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever hear a paradigm shift without a clutch. t&#8217;ain&#8217;t pretty <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tech Blogs</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19935</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe AOL is still around. I don&#039;t even think I know anyone that has AOL anymore. As for the word URL...  I couldn&#039;t count how many times that I used the word URL and someone said, &quot;What&#039;s that?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe AOL is still around. I don&#8217;t even think I know anyone that has AOL anymore. As for the word URL&#8230;  I couldn&#8217;t count how many times that I used the word URL and someone said, &#8220;What&#8217;s that?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing to me is that this discussion is practically moot.

When I watch non-technical users browse the internet, I see one common behavior. They all have a search page as their home page. They all type *everything* in the search box.

If you tell them to search for something, the enter it in the search box of the page. If you tell them to enter a URL (even if you describe the location of the URL field in the browser), then enter it in the search box of the page.

What is interesting about this is that it works the vast majority of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing to me is that this discussion is practically moot.</p>
<p>When I watch non-technical users browse the internet, I see one common behavior. They all have a search page as their home page. They all type *everything* in the search box.</p>
<p>If you tell them to search for something, the enter it in the search box of the page. If you tell them to enter a URL (even if you describe the location of the URL field in the browser), then enter it in the search box of the page.</p>
<p>What is interesting about this is that it works the vast majority of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just type what I want into the browser bar.  Firefox asks Google and I get my page.  No URLs for me!  I don&#039;t even bother bookmarking most things. I want flickr?  I type flickr.  Hooray for clever web browsers and PageRank!

-danny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just type what I want into the browser bar.  Firefox asks Google and I get my page.  No URLs for me!  I don&#8217;t even bother bookmarking most things. I want flickr?  I type flickr.  Hooray for clever web browsers and PageRank!</p>
<p>-danny</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19930</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many companies add www to all their URLs because a lot of users think that is required. In college, I worked at the help desk. Our email server used a subdomain, and many new users tried www.sub.example.edu instead of sub.example.edu like the instructions stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many companies add www to all their URLs because a lot of users think that is required. In college, I worked at the help desk. Our email server used a subdomain, and many new users tried <a href="http://www.sub.example.edu" rel="nofollow">http://www.sub.example.edu</a> instead of sub.example.edu like the instructions stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ortega II</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19928</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ortega II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug That&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about.  Technology is there to work for us (i.e. the search engine).  Why not make it simpler for folks.  Can you imagine how many folks are confused by the two boxes?

Interesting sidenote too, many AOL converts were used to the keyword concept.  In early AOL, and possibly still, there was an area where you typed a keyword and AOL took you to whoever bought that keyword.  It trained people to enter things in the &quot;box&quot; on the screen.

Flash forward to the internet sans AOL walls, i.e. just a browser.  Many of those AOLers didn&#039;t even realize there was a URL bar.  Many of them type the url into the search box of whatever their default search homepage was.  

@Art I agree.

Funny story about addresses too.  In Florence, Italy there is this famous Gelato Vendor named Vivoli.  Taped to the wall is a postcard bearing only &quot;Vivoli, Europa&quot; for the address, yet it was successfully delivered.

Granted, I doubt we&#039;re all that popular, but still.  Pretty neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about.  Technology is there to work for us (i.e. the search engine).  Why not make it simpler for folks.  Can you imagine how many folks are confused by the two boxes?</p>
<p>Interesting sidenote too, many AOL converts were used to the keyword concept.  In early AOL, and possibly still, there was an area where you typed a keyword and AOL took you to whoever bought that keyword.  It trained people to enter things in the &#8220;box&#8221; on the screen.</p>
<p>Flash forward to the internet sans AOL walls, i.e. just a browser.  Many of those AOLers didn&#8217;t even realize there was a URL bar.  Many of them type the url into the search box of whatever their default search homepage was.  </p>
<p>@Art I agree.</p>
<p>Funny story about addresses too.  In Florence, Italy there is this famous Gelato Vendor named Vivoli.  Taped to the wall is a postcard bearing only &#8220;Vivoli, Europa&#8221; for the address, yet it was successfully delivered.</p>
<p>Granted, I doubt we&#8217;re all that popular, but still.  Pretty neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Grater</title>
		<link>http://lordbron.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/dad-whats-a-url/#comment-19927</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Grater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long overdue!

BTW, speaking of mail -- why do we even need addresses?  You should be able to send me a letter or package by just writing &quot;93953-1747&quot;, which is my Zip+4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long overdue!</p>
<p>BTW, speaking of mail &#8212; why do we even need addresses?  You should be able to send me a letter or package by just writing &#8220;93953-1747&#8243;, which is my Zip+4.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug McCune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug McCune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve largely stopped using the search box in the browser and just type my search queries straight into the address bar (in FF). If the almighty gods think that there&#039;s a single result appropriate enough then they take me straight to that page (like hitting &quot;I&#039;m Feeling Lucky&quot; on Google). If not then I get the the Google results for my search query. It&#039;s beautiful. When I want to go to the MXNA blog aggregator I just type in &quot;mxna&quot; into the address bar. That&#039;s not the domain name (not even part of the domain name) but it takes me right there.

I just tried that by opening a new tab and typing &quot;tom ortega&quot; and it took me straight to this blog, bypassing the search page altogether. This saves me loads of milliseconds in FireFox cause I can literally just type &quot;[Ctrl-T] tom ortega [Enter]&quot; and I get a new tab with your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve largely stopped using the search box in the browser and just type my search queries straight into the address bar (in FF). If the almighty gods think that there&#8217;s a single result appropriate enough then they take me straight to that page (like hitting &#8220;I&#8217;m Feeling Lucky&#8221; on Google). If not then I get the the Google results for my search query. It&#8217;s beautiful. When I want to go to the MXNA blog aggregator I just type in &#8220;mxna&#8221; into the address bar. That&#8217;s not the domain name (not even part of the domain name) but it takes me right there.</p>
<p>I just tried that by opening a new tab and typing &#8220;tom ortega&#8221; and it took me straight to this blog, bypassing the search page altogether. This saves me loads of milliseconds in FireFox cause I can literally just type &#8220;[Ctrl-T] tom ortega [Enter]&#8221; and I get a new tab with your blog.</p>
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